tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post5137575721242751487..comments2024-03-15T23:39:29.134-08:00Comments on Scribbit | Motherhood in Alaska: A Fire at Brayton ChurchScribbithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03178711182424809035noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-22565916110405135282007-03-26T17:35:00.000-08:002007-03-26T17:35:00.000-08:00Oh no!! I'm so sorry to hear that! Sorry I'm comme...Oh no!! I'm so sorry to hear that! Sorry I'm commenting so late, but I'm just now catching up on my favorites and read this post! That's awful!!Christie O.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16119774914469200174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-56755701944457930132007-03-24T19:09:00.000-08:002007-03-24T19:09:00.000-08:00you're quite welcome, scribbit. i added your dad ...you're quite welcome, scribbit. i added your dad to my prayers and i also asked my mom (california) to put his name on her temple prayer list since ours is closed temporarily. i hope he starts to feel all back to his normal sunshiney (is that even a word?) self very soon :)<BR/><BR/>also, thanks for posting the video clips of the inside chapel and cultural hall/gym.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-43552590955073864272007-03-24T08:37:00.000-08:002007-03-24T08:37:00.000-08:00Oh and thank you for the kind comments "Glad to be...Oh and thank you for the kind comments "Glad to be a Mormon," especially about Pres. Nichols. He's having a hard time of it right now--in a lot of pain and could use some prayers on his behalf. He is concerned that members know that he isn't laying low or missing in action, but that his health problems were previously scheduled before the fire and were non-elective. Now that the first surgery was unsuccessful he's in for more on Saturday and is worried about recovering quickly when the stake needs him. <BR/><BR/>He's been meeting with Pres. Newman and things are running as best they can--even from his hospital room.Scribbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03178711182424809035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-3090494781848242242007-03-24T08:33:00.000-08:002007-03-24T08:33:00.000-08:00I've received the official email about seminary. ...I've received the official email about seminary. Seminary will begin on Monday in the following locations:<BR/><BR/>Seniors will meet at K. Andersen's home.<BR/><BR/>Juniors will meet at the Young's home.<BR/><BR/>Sophomores will meet at the Huffman's home.<BR/><BR/>Freshmen will be combined, and meet at the Carter's home.<BR/><BR/>The seniors, sophomores and freshmen classes should drop off and park at the church parking lot.<BR/><BR/>Church leaders are looking into various options for other activities: one possibility is moving ATCO portable trailers into the church parking lot to serve as ward and stake office space. They're looking into using South High and Hanshew middle school as Sunday meeting places for the four displaced wards. Word is ward auxiliary leaders should be thinking of how much space they will require for their Sunday meetings and week day activities and be prepared to discuss what they will need with their Bishops. <BR/><BR/>On another note, President Nichols Friday night mentioned how wonderful the community has been. Cal Worthington called to offer warehouse space to the church and to give a truck for cleanup efforts. He'd been contacted by leaders from the Catholic church, Abbott Loop Community Church, Chapel by the Sea and others all offering help and support. There have been many instances of civic leaders and people living in the area around the church who have expressed love and sympathy for church members. <BR/><BR/>And yes, he said that a stake center in Texas did burn down the same day. That was confirmed by the Salt Lake facilities rep in town.Scribbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03178711182424809035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-20248229682892165002007-03-24T07:24:00.000-08:002007-03-24T07:24:00.000-08:00I am tuly sorry for your loss. I can only imagine...I am tuly sorry for your loss. I can only imagine what all the people that attended church in this particular building must be going through. I am also sorry for the negative comments you have received. You would think that in a world that preaches tolerance and acceptance, in a time like this you would receive supportive message as apposed to message that bash what you believe. I will continue to pray for all of you who are affected by this loss...and for those who's hearts obviously need to be softened. God Bless!Darciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06793343805722754167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-56507933228706181562007-03-23T22:51:00.000-08:002007-03-23T22:51:00.000-08:00I just came back from visiting President Nichols a...I just came back from visiting President Nichols at the hospital and have a few more details. He toured the Brayton building Thursday evening and said the interior was remarkably untouched. The huge wood/glue beams across the ceiling were almost completely uncharred and in normal condition--evidently they're more fire safe than steel. The fire department changed the locks on the building immediately and no one is to go in at all. All supplies, until further notice, are not to be retrieved and should be considered replaceable.<BR/><BR/>Whether the building will be razed or rebuilt is uncertain, that decision will be made by Salt Lake.<BR/><BR/>He is in the hospital for some non-elective surgery for severe kidney stones which was done Friday morning but was unsuccessful and will be having a second round of surgery Saturday morning. He's met extensively with President Newman and is working to make arrangements for alternate building facilities.<BR/><BR/>Also, he was concerned that people are aware the temple is safe. The water damage was in the front, public areas and has not affected the ordinance areas. SLC is already on the scene taking care of damage.Scribbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03178711182424809035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-80041465070706483942007-03-23T22:20:00.000-08:002007-03-23T22:20:00.000-08:00KTUU channel 2 10PM news confirms that Temple was ...KTUU channel 2 10PM news confirms that Temple was flooded in the basement. They showed a pump pumping water out the front door. <BR/>They also showed a shot of chapel/cultural hall interior.nivramcireelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675883736298337784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-23182546251315054052007-03-23T21:58:00.000-08:002007-03-23T21:58:00.000-08:00I was looking through "A Gathering of Saints in Al...I was looking through "A Gathering of Saints in Alaska" book, and it would seem we have had 2 other fires. The 11th and E chapel had a fire in Apr 1966 just before the Aug 1966 dedication of the Maplewood chapel. That fire damaged the stage and ceiling in the cultural hall, picture on pg45. And as mentioned by an earlier poster, Juneau had it's chapel burn to the ground in Dec 1974 (text pg58). <BR/>There is a picture of the 1976 Brayton fire on pg 49, actually, a little later with construction crane hanging over it. It doesn't show the tall brick walls at each end of cultural hall. Were they replaced, or were they originally wood, and had brick added to second construction?nivramcireelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675883736298337784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-62708612550481316602007-03-23T21:29:00.000-08:002007-03-23T21:29:00.000-08:00I went to early morning seminary at this beautiful...I went to early morning seminary at this beautiful building years ago-'70's. It is tragic to see this place of memories catch fire. I'll be praying for the ward members and their new schedule and location. I'm very sad to see this for a second time. We loved this place. dollyroy@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-23411230281605914802007-03-23T20:33:00.000-08:002007-03-23T20:33:00.000-08:00hello scribbit -- how neat to run into you and yo...hello scribbit -- how neat to run into you and your husband tonight at the movie line. small world. i knew i recognized you from the blog pictures. thank you for posting this about our church. this has been awesome to see the comments from here and abroad. so positive. <BR/><BR/>kids say some of the neatest things. one of my primary kids (5 y/o) was with her mom yesterday across the parking lot looking at the fire burning and you know what this precious little one said? she said, "i want to know where i am going to be giving my talk in primary on sunday!" she is ready to serve, no matter the circumstance. what an example.<BR/><BR/>thank you and God bless :)<BR/><BR/>PS. i love how your dad always has that sparkle in his eyes when he greets me in the church. he always makes me feel so welcome there. and i so enjoyed your mom's sunday school class until i was called to be a primary teacher a few months ago. i can't wait to be in church this sunday and also to see my ward family and primary kids. can't wait :) everything continues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-31656083909309477452007-03-23T20:22:00.000-08:002007-03-23T20:22:00.000-08:00I knew there was a reason I liked your posts so mu...I knew there was a reason I liked your posts so much. We're "Sister" :) I am always shocked when the anti-mormons come out of the wood work. I guess I should be used to it. But in a world the preaches "tolerance" it's amazing how intolerant many are towards us. <BR/>I have lived many places in the U.S. and was always glad to leave my small town building behind...but my husband fell in love with the place I grew up and we're back again. I recently drove past the building I grew up in. I used to choreograph many a road show in that building. I even won some awards for it. Quite a big deal to me when I was 17. Seeing that building kind of tugged at my heartstrings. So I can kind of relate. Wow, I didn't realize there were so many LDS in Alaska. I'll have to come up and visit sometime! My prayers are with your stake.evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115079632194562114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-20899595419941356462007-03-23T20:14:00.000-08:002007-03-23T20:14:00.000-08:00Wow, what an event and an exciting opportunity fo...Wow, what an event and an exciting opportunity for re-growth! Isn't that what the gospel is all about? Good luck to you and your Stake members!Larahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12518442124374879454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-17603790085528339932007-03-23T20:06:00.000-08:002007-03-23T20:06:00.000-08:00Well if you're interested in more news: today (Fri...Well if you're interested in more news: today (Friday) someone went by the temple across the street from the church and noticed water coming from under the front door. Turns out when the fire department raised the water pressure to fight the fire it blew off a cap on a water pipe. The cap, 6-8" in diameter approx. blew off with such force it drove a tool box through the wall and left water shooting into the lower level. It flooded only the basement level but to waist deep. Luckily the Facilities Rep from SLC had arrived the night before and was able to take a look at the damage to the temple, which was about to close for a week anyway.<BR/><BR/>Word is that the Facilities Rep says they'd like to rebuild the church rather than razing it because it would be much easier to accomplish sooner. Permitting delays and such being avoided.<BR/><BR/>Only rumors of course, but that's what I'd heard so far.Scribbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03178711182424809035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-86598933628662487952007-03-23T17:30:00.000-08:002007-03-23T17:30:00.000-08:00Wow. Another LDS Stake Center somewhere in Texas ...Wow. Another LDS Stake Center somewhere in Texas burned down the same day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-91409182630582777842007-03-23T11:18:00.000-08:002007-03-23T11:18:00.000-08:00Adding our prayers to all being offered on behalf ...Adding our prayers to all being offered on behalf of those who are affected.<BR/>Bless you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-91955150933672703072007-03-23T10:16:00.000-08:002007-03-23T10:16:00.000-08:00Oh, wow. I'm so sorry!Oh, wow. I'm so sorry!Musings of a Housewifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09854615817486354491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-80999620381831585612007-03-23T09:57:00.000-08:002007-03-23T09:57:00.000-08:00:(:(Blondiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01903668054657873042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-30752154346145796322007-03-23T09:45:00.001-08:002007-03-23T09:45:00.001-08:00Thanks for the supportive comments. A couple corr...Thanks for the supportive comments. A couple corrections in my facts:<BR/><BR/>As it has been pointed out, the building wasn't built in 1977, probably 1976. If I'd bothered to do the math on my age differences I probably could have noticed the glaring error.<BR/><BR/>Also, my husband did not tour the building last night, I misunderstood. He merely talked with several people who had. <BR/><BR/>Which brings up the point that members are being asked to stay away from the building until further notice.Scribbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03178711182424809035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-34283457474710599292007-03-23T09:45:00.000-08:002007-03-23T09:45:00.000-08:00I agree, let's pray for people who lost their Chur...I agree, let's pray for people who lost their Church, AND pray for person who have sent his/her negative message, that they may find peace and understanding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-31432330626684761372007-03-23T08:18:00.000-08:002007-03-23T08:18:00.000-08:00I'm sorry to hear of this but am glad that noone w...I'm sorry to hear of this but am glad that noone was hurt.<BR/><BR/>If it helps any, the Cathedral in Chartres burned down three times and was bombed during the Great Wars and look at it now: it's amazing!<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_ChartresJChevaishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683339168047479228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-44642291027865259862007-03-23T07:16:00.000-08:002007-03-23T07:16:00.000-08:00Oh, that is so hard. Luckily, Mormons are extremel...Oh, that is so hard. Luckily, Mormons are extremely organized and have a really good plan for when stuff like this happens (Even if the leadership of the ward doesn't, the main organization does). My parents ward burned down and my dad was one of the head coordinators for renovation.<BR/><BR/>As for fire: The theater that I am performing in tonight burned down in 1918 and again in the 70's. <BR/><BR/>It underwent a total renovation a decade ago and they called it "The Phoenix Project' because of the history of fire.<BR/><BR/>It can strike buildings twice, sadly.Loralee Choatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16055102094371755499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-46154506076114564982007-03-23T04:01:00.000-08:002007-03-23T04:01:00.000-08:00So very sad! I'm so grateful, though, that the te...So very sad! I'm so grateful, though, that the temple wasn't damaged. My sister's ward meets in the Strawberry chapel and I know it will be crowded for a while, but I also know that people will pull together and make it work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01655714572835606928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-14729389235167152792007-03-23T02:27:00.000-08:002007-03-23T02:27:00.000-08:00This is certainly a sad time for your community. ...This is certainly a sad time for your community. Anytime that folks work hard to build a church and a religion that they believe in and grow up in and share good times with others in, it would be a tragic shock to witness it on fire. Fire is symbolic of different things in the Bible, but for you, at the moment, it probably seems like an element out of control. I will light a candle for you tonight and remember your community in prayer--a candle is a controlled fire and is an ancient religious tradition that represents prayerful remembrance and hope among other things.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad to read that the Catholic Archdiocese of Anchorage has offered support. This is a wonderful Christlike example of loving one's neighbor and loving one's enemies. As you can read from the one comment that was not supportive, your religion remains quite controversial. I grew up in a small town with members of your religion and they were usually pretty nice folks. But Christlike love often means supporting the person or people, but not what they do. Some people say your religion is a bit self-centered. I have also read the words secretive and closed society as descriptions. Some Christians are offended that you do not honor ancient Christian traditions, symbols and writings, yet use the Christian name. Keep in mind that non-conformity, rebellion, and anti-religion can become a religion, can it not? Judas betrayed the Lord with a kiss--your religion, not the people, does the same with a smile. I would challenge you to rebuild your religion, not your church...<BR/>God Bless and God's +PEACE+ be with you as you consider these words...<BR/>Brother HaroldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-86091816384898711342007-03-23T01:21:00.000-08:002007-03-23T01:21:00.000-08:00I have attended this church building since I was 1...I have attended this church building since I was 11 years old. My brother, husband, and daughter were all baptized there. I have many wonderful memories there...and I had a wealth of Primary Music and Choir Music stuff inside...but these are all material things. A building is a building...and the new building will be special too. We are going forward with plans for a nice Easter program for our ward- wherever we meet. We will be ok. We always have each other. My father-in-law who is Catholic called to tell us how sorry they were- and to make sure it wasn't the temple that burned.<BR/>They had been to the open house and he said it would have made him sad to know that "that beautiful little building" was no longer there. He tried to explain the feeling there- and couldn't find the words. I know it was the Spirit. Already one wonderful conversation has come to me from this tragedy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14194867.post-61955223828979593712007-03-22T23:40:00.000-08:002007-03-22T23:40:00.000-08:00We were deeply saddened to wake up this morning to...We were deeply saddened to wake up this morning to the sad news of our chapel burning. We were grateful to know that there was no one in the building and that all the members are safe. Our prayers are with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com